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What is the meaning behind 1 John 1:9? Who is John addressing?

6/2/2012

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Before even getting into an explanantion, let's ask the question, after we confess our sins once and He forgives them and cleanses us from ALL unrighteousness, what do we do next?  Keep asking??  Absolutley NOT!!!!  We have already been cleansed of ALL unrighteousness the moment we were born again and became new creations in Christ.  We are made righteous in Him.  The basis of our fellowship with Him is His blood.

It just does not make sense that Christians have taken this verse and built a whole doctrine around it when actually the entire first chapter of 1 John was written to combat the Gnostics, who were unbelievers.  This verse stands as the only one of its kind under the New Covenant.  Paul does not mention once in any of his 13 letters.  NOT ONCE!!  No other verse places a conditional "if" on forgiveness and cleansing.   John was saying to these unbelievers that if they confessed their sins (turned toward God and away from the world), God would be faithful and just to cleanse them from ALL unrighteousness.  This would be a one time act for those being born again.  Please take note of the word "ALL."  For believers, the moment we received Jesus, all our sins were forgiven once and for ALL.  We are not to live from confession to confession, but from faith to faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work.  Awesome!

Seriously, how many times does a person need to be forgiven for ALL sins? Just ONCE!! :-)

The teaching that a believer has to keep confessing sins to be forgiven is completely false. It is a slap in the face to the finished work of Christ.   If (repeated) confession of sins is vital for your forgiveness, then the Apostle Paul, who wrote two-thirds of the New Testament, has done us a great injustice because he did not mention it even once-not once-in any of his letters to the church. 

In the verse before 1 John 1:8-9, John writes in verse 7, "But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from ALL sin."  The moment you receive Christ, the blood of Jesus keeps on cleansing you.  It is as if you are under a waterfall of His forgiveness that never ends.  Amen!

In 1 John 2:12, John states, "I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for His name's sake."  This is a statement to believers.   Our sins have already been forgiven. 

Over two thousand years ago early forms of Gnostic thought infiltrated the church and popularized the idea that Jesus was only spirit.  The Gnostics taught that all matter was evil.  Early Gnostics claimed that God would never stoop so low as to take on human flesh.  So the apostle John purposely uses physical words in his opening statement to challenge this Gnostic heresy.  Later, he says that anyone who does not believe that Jesus came in human flesh is not from God (1 John 4:3).

Interestingly, early Gnostic philosophers didn't just deny the physicality of Jesus; they also denied the reality of sin.  Gnostics claimed that sin wasn't real or didn't matter, since it took place in the physical world.  So John opens his letter by attacking two Gnostic heresies: 1) Jesus as nonphysical, and 2) sin as a nonreality.

Understanding John's purpose in opening his letter this way is crucial.  Some claim that 1 John 1:9 must refer to Christians, since John uses the word 'we'.  There are preceding and following verses that John uses the word 'we' and 'us' to politely combat Gnostic heresy.

If we claim to be without sin...(1 John 1:8)
If we claim we have not sinned.... (1 John 1:10
the truth is not in us... (1 John 1:8)
(God's) word is not in us... (1 John 1:10)

Is John referring to believers here?  When referring to people who don't have the truth in them or God's word in them, does he include himself and the church in that group?  Certainly not!  John is politely saying that if we humans claim we have no sin, we're liars and don't have Christ (the Word and the Truth) in us.  Clearly, John is talking about unbelievers. 

To further support what John is saying here, let's look at 1 John 5:10.  John wrote, "The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given us concerning His Son." John is describing those that do not believe in God as making Him a liar.  He stated the same message in 1 John 1:10, "If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us."

John is clearly addressing unbelievers.

Verse 9 is a remedy for unbelievers who have been influenced by Gnostic peer pressure and are now claiming sinless perfection.  John is essentially asking, "Instead of claiming that you have no sin, will you consider changing your mind?  Instead of claiming you've never sinned, how about agreeing with God?"  He's inviting Gnostics to rethink their point of view.  If they'll admit their sinfulness, then God can do a saving work in their lives.  

1 John 1:9 is an invitation to become a Christian.  As believers in Christ, God has taken away all our sins, condemning them in the flesh (Romans 8:1-39).  He remembers them no more (Hebrews 8:7-13).  Hebrews 10 describes that one sacrifice of Christ is sufficient.  Jesus perfected for all time those who are sanctified by His one offering (Hebrews 10:14).  There is no longer any offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18).  Our forgiveness and cleansing are not dependent on our memory, our confession, or our asking.  Our forgiveness and cleansing are solely because of the finished work of Jesus Christ.  Amen!

To place icing on the cake, if confessing sins is necessary for forgiveness under the New Covenant, then why does Paul not mention it once in any of his letters (13 letters in the New Covenant)?  NOT ONCE!!! Simply because it is not for believers in the New Covenant. 

The truth is the truth and it will set us free!  :-)


77 Comments
Norman Silva
8/9/2012 12:04:46 am

Very good article. This whole issue of 1 John 1:9 is so simple to understand but 99% of the Body of Christ (especially pastors) get it wrong.

I have for years, been telling people the correct meaning of 1 John 1:9 and have always found a resistance from them to accepting the truth. People get infuriated when you tell them because what you are saying is undermining their belief system.

In essence, they are rejecting the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross and in effect saying " thank you Lord for your work but I STILL have to confess my sins to be forgiven and to restore fellowship even though you tell me in 1 Cor 1:9 (fancy that) that fellowship was established with God when I was saved".

Now how is this different from a Church of Christ person saying that baptism (in their church) is necessary for salvation or the Reformed position of infant baptism for salvation. Evangelicals rail against those doctrines and teachings but are doing exactly the same. Is this not a false Gospel - the 1 John 1:9 belief?

In Him,

Norman Silva.

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Paul cochran
9/15/2015 04:44:18 pm

so what you're saying is, Christians never sin! They never lie, they never cheat on their income tax, they never treat their wives badly, they're just sinless perfection waiting to be raptured right? Can you stand back and see what you're saying? Of course we need to confess our sins of course we need to repent of things that we do. It's precisely the Gnostics that were saying that we do not sin or need to repent. This is not about salvation this is about living holy before the Lord.

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cajetan
10/1/2015 02:48:37 am

bro Paul how can you live a holy life,lets assume we have to confess and repent for our sins,are you sure you remember all your sins that you commit each day you repent and confess,not possible.God in His divine wisdom knew exactly,how to help us thats the reason He planned it this way,I suggest you to study the old covenantt of forgiveness of sins in Heb9:12(Ex 30:10)

rick martello
4/21/2016 08:16:32 am

john is referring to his brethren that had already accepted christ.
he calls them my little children. jesus says you must become like children to enter the kingdom

if they were non-born again people just confessing you sins will not get you saved, you have to ask christ into your heart and that verse says nothing about that. the word IF wouldnt applie to non believers because their all sinners. IF is replying to born again believers . your not supposed to be sinning but IF you do and repent sincerely not to sin again god will forgive you.

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Cyril Robinson
5/10/2016 03:34:18 am

John 1:12 please read.. It is only believing in the name of Jesus, has the authority to call us God's child.

H link
11/29/2016 11:33:29 am

So you are saying that Christ's sacrifice was not sufficient to pay for my sins, past present and future? I must confess them all, past, present and future?

Lisa Keele
11/30/2017 11:24:51 am

I am so thankful for a little church in Alabama that over 10 years ago heard this simple Truth from the Holy Spirit! I can still remember the pastors wife saying to me with so much joy as she was leaving my home and getting into her car ...” Now, we get to say THANK YOU LORD FOR FORGIVING ME OF _______SIN”!!!!
She said it with her arms raised up and her hands waving and her face exclaiming my God is so good !!!!

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rick
5/22/2021 04:19:47 pm

king james says : cleanse us from all unrighteousness. its talking about the brotherns (us) not them and also from unrighteousness not the unrighteousness. you gotta learn how to read.

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rick
2/8/2022 10:17:47 pm

it says if any man sins you will be forgiven. john was speaking to his brothers in christ. why do you think there was daily sacrifices ? why not just one time ? it represents that we need to ask for givenness daily. actually we should not be sinning--were suppose tobe new creatures in christ. doesnt the lords prayer teach us to ask for forgiveness ?

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michelle
8/4/2013 12:06:52 pm

Dear bro.Norman
I do agree with u..God bless.

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michelle
8/4/2013 12:07:16 pm

Dear bro.Norman
I do agree with u..God bless.

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Marcel
1/7/2014 03:08:35 pm

Paul wrote just over 1/4 of the New Testament, not 2/3, and he did tell believers to repent of sin - see 2 Cor 12:20-21. Now, if as you say, John is trying to educate Gnostics and give an altar call (in a sacred church epistle of all places) rather than protect his flock, why would he be in disagreement with Paul?

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Pato
5/22/2014 12:42:48 pm

Paul implores these particular offenders(2Cor 12:20,21) to repent(metanoia-change your mind)-Repentance has to do with the renewing of the mind-and allowing the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit to work in you to produce fruit leading to righteous living. The word "confess"-not repent is used in this passage)1Jn 1:9).The word confess is the the word "homologia" in greek it means same word, to agree with, to admit ones guilt the good confession-this agrees with Paul in Romans 10:9 "...If you confess with your mouth..." This is in relation to salvation. So Paul and John do agree. John is not merely educating the gnostic infiltrators, rather he admonishing them to admit they are sinners(they deny sin) and to come to Christ for forgiveness of sins!

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Paul cochran
9/15/2015 04:49:55 pm

you are overall spot on however, John is writing this to believers in order to protect them against false teachers! he does not send letters to Gnostics. He does not write to unbelievers! He is wanting to protect the love of his life which is fellow believers in Christ!

Paul cochran
9/15/2015 04:46:30 pm

this teaching is a form of Gnosticism! Your comments are spot on.

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cajetan
10/1/2015 02:52:10 am

dear bro Marcel,Paul is telling the church to repent and not telling them to confess their sins,please take the pain to find out the BIBLICAL meaning of repent

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AMOITI GORRETI FAITH
7/23/2014 07:27:57 pm

i agree with you hundred percent but why are we repenting our sins everyday ?

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peggy
10/26/2014 12:11:21 am

Because people have egos and want to be included in the equation when in truth it is all Him and none of us that does the cleansing. He did it all on the cross. All we have to do is accept Him and our forgiveness is complete. Once you accept Christ asking for forgiveness is like asking for something you already have. And repeatedly asking means that you don't think that what He did was enough. So you think you have to put yourself in the equation and keep asking. Let's move on- we are totally forgiven and that's why its called "The Good News"! Praise His Holy Name!!!

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Marcel
10/26/2014 10:04:55 pm

That would be a great thing except there's only one problem with that wonderful argument... Greek scholar A. T. Robertson refutes the idea that it is a once for all confession, it reads ‘if we keep on confessing.’” Wuest correctly renders it, “If we continue to confess our sins, faithful is He and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from every unrighteousness.” This immediately dispels the myth that confession of sin is a “once off” matter for past, present and future sins, furthermore, it dismisses any idea that this was written to unbelievers for why would they have to repeatedly confess their SINS...if you going to say yes but confess homologeo means saying the same thing, no it doesn't, in John 1:20 John the Baptist says exactly the opposite of what they said.

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Onnie
10/29/2014 03:11:38 am

I would say this in response to that Marcel, look at 1 John 212 and you can see in the Greek that the word Forgiven is in the Perfect tense, actually Perfect Passive Indicative which means an action having been completed Once and for all Never to be repeated. Jesus said It is Finished in the Perfect tense so perfect tense has a purpose. Passive means you Receive the action not achieve the forgiveness. As for At Robertson a great scholar But 1John 1:9 Is a Present invitation to the Gnostics in other words they as a whole can continue as a whole to be Forgiven it doesn't mean a constant being forgiven otherwise Why use the word All, and what is Righteousness.. It is Believing in Jesus Christ and receiving His Righteousness. Being cleansed from Unrighteousness is referring to the worst sin which is Unbelief in Christ remember John 16:9? That unbelief in Christ Will send someone to hell because they never received Him. Also notice Verse 2-3 Of 1John chp 1, He clearly is Emphasizing Jesus is Eternal did the church need to know that? Of course not then He says about that You may have fellowship with Us.. That is 2 groups Believers and Unbelievers. Peace Also Repent means change your mind, so 2 Cor refers to Walk as Children of Light, you are not a sinner you are now the Righteousness of God in Christ walk in your new identity.

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Frank Derksen
11/17/2014 12:06:55 pm

It is truly comforting to have 1st John 1:9 explained the way you have.It is however difficult to find people who agree with your interpretation, in particular, pastors.Thanks for clarification of this seamingly controversial portion of Scripture.

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Uche
11/24/2014 11:07:43 pm

Thank you and God bless you all who are bold enough to tell this truth that has been misunderstood for all times. People want to be part of the saving process. They prefer to confess their sins everyday rather than look to the cross where Christ bored our sins and Rom 8:3 says God condemned sin in the flesh. Many Christians who believe they need to confess sins in order to be forgiven will unfortunately find themselves in HELL because of UN-confessed sins. God is restoring focus to His son. We must keep preaching this great truth. Great job guys.

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Tony
11/25/2014 03:15:49 am

Having been born again since 1977, I just discovered this truth only weeks ago. I am refreshed with what I have read here. I have a friend who shared this with me after I was wrestling with it. He told me that he has not asked forgiveness in over a year. He simply goes to the throne and thanks God for the forgiveness he has in Christ. Love it guys!!!

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Brandon Hein
1/7/2016 11:41:31 am

Your friend is 100% right on. Welcome to GRACE. I recommend "Destined to Reign " by Joseph Prince. Awesome book that explains this in detail.

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Jerry
1/20/2015 03:28:50 am

Could you address 1 John 2:1,2? When John says "My little children" I get the sense he is addressing the "church"....not gnostics who he has no relationship with. " I am writing these things to you that you may not sin". What things? The things he just communicated 2 verses earlier.

How do you understand this text in light of your interpretation?

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peggy
1/21/2015 04:20:11 pm

He is writing TO believers ABOUT unbelievers. Believers walking in light and unbelievers walking in darkness. If you do not believe you have sin then you wouldn't need a Savior so you walk in darkness and the truth is not in you. BUT the verse says, if you confess your sin He will forgive and purify from ALL unrighteousness the whole section is a comparison between walking in dark and walking in light which is believers and unbelievers. As I stated earlier, He is talking TO believers ABOUT unbelievers. I hope this helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97_91LKxlU0 Try that short video by Ryan Rufus on 1 John 1:9

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Cons
5/21/2015 08:15:02 pm

Thank God for I am enlightenment...

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DK
3/17/2018 05:25:10 pm

I read some of the reply. My questions is when did God put a stop sign on first John 1:9? Provbers 28:13? The Lord's prayer? Psalms 139: 23? When did God put a stop sign on thoes verses? I understand we r 4given but we live in fleshy body's and we mess up. How can a Christian hate someone and not ask God to forgive then? God is Holy and we should treat Him as Holy .

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ed banter
3/26/2018 03:41:21 pm

Let The Bible interpret The Bible:
2 Timothy 2:15
Berean Study Bible
Make every effort to present yourself approved to God,
an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth.
http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-15.htm
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Identify who scripture is addressing:
1 Corinthians 10:32
King James Bible
Give none offence, neither to the Jews [1], nor to the Gentiles [2],
nor to the church of God [3]:
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/10-32.htm
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>>>Group #1 The Jews<<<
1 - What you are quoting, that is from the Old Testament is to The Jews, Group [1] .
They are under The Old Covenant, and so had to perform, meet the Demands
placed upon them as per their agreement, before entering into the contract/Covenant them.
2 -Jesus came Under The Law to fulfill what The Law Demanded, to the Nation of Israel,
as was promised by God. This appears in what is called The New Testament, but it is really God fulfilling what He promised in The old Testament.
When Israel as a Nation reject Jesus as their Messiah/Christ, then Jesus stops His ministry to Israel, and starts his "Upper Room Discourse" revealing The Mystery which is The Body of Christ/The Church.

Evidenced by Jesus before rejection, calls The Temple 'His Father' House', and after the rejection, He calls it 'your house'.
The table was set for the First Son which is Israel, and it was rejected, and so The Gentile dogs got to eat all he scraps thrown off the table, onto the floor.

Matthew 15:27
Berean Study Bible
"Yes, Lord," she said, "even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table."
http://biblehub.com/matthew/15-27.htm
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Mark 7:28
Berean Study Bible
"Yes, Lord," she replied, "even the dogs under the table eat the children's crumbs."
http://biblehub.com/mark/7-28.htm
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>>>Group #2 The Gentiles [Those with no covenant/contract]<<<
Gentiles [2] have No Covenant, so they do not follow anything except their Flesh..

>>>Group #3<<<
Christians [3] have The New Covenant, and it does not Demand, it Supplies!!!
Jesus took ALL of Sin, on our behave, and bore it on The Cross, paying to God the debt we owed Him.

We were not given The Law, and we are dead to sin, and alive to The Holy Spirit.
'Christian' means 'Christ-Ones', and to be christened is to be dunked into something.
Christians are those that have The Holy Spirit, God Himself, living inside and guiding them.
This is a much higher way than the more basic and simple Law.

Romans 7:4
Berean Study Bible
Therefore, my brothers, you also ***died to the Law*** through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God.
http://biblehub.com/romans/7-4.htm
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The Law says to The Jews [1] 'Thou shalt not .... commit adultery'.
Now a Jew can not love his/her spouse and keep The Law.

Grace, The Holy Spirit says to 'The Church of God' [3] ....
Ephesians 5:25
Berean Study Bible
Husbands, *****love***** your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her
http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-25.htm
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Now this is a much higher standard, an is impossible without God Himself, The Holy Spirit living inside, providing 'The Love of Christ'!

Now that looks like a Demand .... but look who Supplies The Love:
Romans 5:5
Berean Study Bible
And hope does not disappoint us, because ***God*** has poured out His love into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, whom He has given us.
http://biblehub.com/romans/5-5.htm
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So to Christians it is all about Supply!!!
God provides!!!!!

We just have to receive ***it***, and trust ***it***, and follow ***it***, and walk in ***it***, and release ***it***!
All done by faith.
It is called Grace for a reason!







cajetan
10/1/2015 02:55:58 am

God bless you brother for this message

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rick
2/8/2022 10:33:42 pm

doesnt the lords prayer tells us to repent ?

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Peggy
10/1/2015 06:30:12 am

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the answer to all of our sin. Sin is no longer an issue that we need to focus on. Focus on Him and how great He is rather than on how bad you are. Yes, we are all human and still engage in human behavior but in Him it is no longer counted against us. We have an exchanged life. You have been set free. Be careful not to defend your warden- the one who wants to keep you locked up. Here are two verses for your contemplation. : 1 John 3:5-6-"But you know that He appeared that He might take away our sins. And in Him there is no sin. No one who lives in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen Him or known Him." 1 John 5:18- "We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot touch them."
So think of the word sin for a moment. Think of how you perceive the word sin. If Jesus cleansed you from all of your sin then the word sin no longer applies to you. You have been washed clean. Of course none of us can lead lives without fleshly behavior but the fleshly behavior is no longer considered sin- its just behavior now and is not even remembered by the Father. "I will remember their sins no more." If God doesn't even remember them what importance do they have? This removal of sin consciousness only applies to those who have accepted the forgiveness and righteousness that Jesus offers. Sin becomes simply unbelief that what Jesus did was not enough- rather than our human behavior. Its the way you view the word sin. Romans 14:14 "I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean." Romans 14:23 provides a definition of sin: "...anything that does not come from faith is sin," I have much more to say on this because it is the truth that sets you free. Its all about Jesus not your behavior. Jesus will fill your emptiness with joy and peace and love. I write these things to anyone who who has ears to hear- not to people who want to argue. There is no argument in the fact that Jesus is the most wonderful experience that humans can have and He is why we are here. And anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. Once you have been brought into the family of believers your sins are no longer remembered so you can be free. Gal 5:1 "It is for freedom that Christ has set you free. Stand firm then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery." Pray to God for enlightenment on the scripture. He will give it to you.

If you want to hear more about what I am saying you may email me directly peggylouky@twc.com. All angry responses will be completely ignored and deleted. All questions and discussions are very welcome.

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Benita
1/1/2017 08:59:42 pm

You are truly an inspiration. You have great insight into the word of God...Great explanation. Continue the good work. ..

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Darren
1/15/2018 05:43:21 am

I also think we need to continue to renew our minds to the fact that as born again believers we are NEW CREATURES in Christ. 2 Cor.5:17
This has helped me NOT to be sin-conscious and to focus on Christ's Finished work on the Cross and who I am in Christ! Its Now....In HIm we live and move and have our being!

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ed banter
3/26/2018 03:47:48 pm

Thank you for this blessing.
Someone in the house shout: "Grace grace!!!"

Zechariah 4:7
Christian Standard Bible
'What are you, great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become a plain. And he will bring out the capstone accompanied by shouts of: ***Grace, grace to it!***'"
http://biblehub.com/zechariah/4-7.htm
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;-)

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rick
2/8/2022 10:38:40 pm

if john were talking to unbelievers why just confess your sins ? that wont save you. you must ask god to come into your life, be born again and be baptized. hes talking to his christian brothers

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D.Grace
10/18/2015 02:38:25 pm

I too, agree with this teaching. First, many people don't realize that in the New Testament the word "sin" is used as a verb (action) only 2 times. All the remaining mentions of the word sin are in noun (person, place, thing) form. Read Romans 6... We WERE servants of sin, but are NOW servants of righteousness. Sin has no dominion over us bc we are not under the law, but under grace. Rom 6:20 says that when we were servants of sin, we were free from righteousness. Does that mean when we were in the place called sin, we never did a righteous act (verb)? Of course not... Yet since we were under that domain (sin) our righteousness or good deeds were never accounted for bc there are no righteous acts in the kingdom of darkness - they may exist in actuality, but will never be recognized in that kingdom. In the same way, being now servants of righteousness, sin is not imputed to us bc in the Kingdom of Light our Father only sees the blood of Jesus, and remembers our sin NO MORE. Rom 6:2 is basically saying "You are dead to sin (noun) so you can't live there anymore". You can't live in two places at one time. With regard to confessing sin.... If we had to confess our sins (let's say daily), then what was/is the point of the Cross? I say it would have been easier to have the High Priest make a sacrifice which would cover the sin for a year! If the blood of bulls and goats would have worked, the people would have had no consciousness of sin (Heb). So that implies that God does not want us living each day in "sin consciousness" (also referred to in the Word as an "evil conscience"). Heb 6:12: "With his own blood; not the blood of bulls and goats, he entered the Most Holy Place once, for all time, and secured our redemption forever". Vs 14: "... Think how much more the blood of Christ will purify our consciences from sinful deeds (Greek from "dead works") so that we can worship the living God". Christ was the perfect sacrifice.. ONCE and FOR ALL. THIS IS A COMPLETE WORK OF CHRIST. HE IS NOT COMING DOWN AGAIN TO DIE OVER AND OVER FOR YOUR SINS. If you could see this, and know that there is no condemnation for you-- you will be able to receive and understand God's Love and forgiveness in a greater way... A way that frees you to love and worship Him like never before. John was writing to a church that had some Gnostics within. When preachers preach, sometimes they address the church, sometimes they address unbelievers that are present. This also happened with letters, which were read out loud. When John says "we" it is referred to as an editorial "we" which is being polite. You might say to a child, "Honey, We don't play with matches; We look both ways before we cross the street.." etc. it's more polite- less finger pointing. So John was not talking about confession of sins as a believer. Yes, confess your faults to one another that you may be healed. That's for the sake of your own heart and for your brothers and sisters. But to try to remain conscious and keep track of all your sins is quite harmful. And a waste of time since God only sees you under the constant waterfall of Jesus' blood, not your sin. So why even go there? Amen- love to all of you!

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Alan Greenaway
3/2/2016 01:02:34 pm

Thanks ,Great, Fantastic,what a privileged people we are beautiful in Christ.Chosen ,Called ,and Changed .Ps 65 verse 4 Blessed is the man whom thou chooses .and perfect in Christ .The all Sufficiency of the Subsitutionary work on the cross we are complete in Him made perfect.

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Benita
1/1/2017 09:03:07 pm

Bravo...Well said. Great insight...

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ed banter
3/26/2018 03:50:40 pm


One sweet post! Thanks!!!

Zechariah 4:7
Christian Standard Bible
'What are you, great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become a plain. And he will bring out the capstone accompanied by shouts of: ***Grace, grace to it!***'"
http://biblehub.com/zechariah/4-7.htm
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Gerry
11/9/2015 04:10:54 am

Please tell me how we reconcile Revelation 2:5, 16, 20, 21 Rev. 3:3 etc.
This was written to believers. I am trying to understand these verses

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Rick
1/4/2017 01:48:46 pm

The first thing to remember is that these verses in Revelation are written to Churches - not individual Christians. So, God's correction is specifically to local churches, in context. Secondly, the word "repent" (metanoeo) means "to change ones mind" - it does not mean to confess your sins. So when a church or an individual sins or makes mistakes, they are never enjoined in the New Covenant to confess those sins in order to get forgiven, rather they are enjoined to "change their mind" - that is, to agree with God that what they are doing is wrong and should start acting like who they "already are in Christ."

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ed banter
3/31/2017 01:35:21 pm

The Book of Revelation tells us that 3 Churches will head into The Tribulation, and one church into The Great Tribulation ....
Why?
Because they go to church and play church, but never let Jesus into their hearts. In short they are not Born Again.

Acts 16:30-31
New International Version (NIV)
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, <b>“Believe in the Lord Jesus</b>, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

It is that simple, but still their are people who call themselves Christians yet they do not let Jesus into their hearts.

Romans 10:8-13
New International Version (NIV)

8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim:
9 If you declare with your mouth, <b>“Jesus is Lord,”</b> and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

It is that simple to get saved and still people do not do it.

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Sandy
12/27/2015 03:05:41 am

How do you explain the Greek continuing aspect of the word "confess"? This seems to be what causes confusion.
I agree that this first chapter is written for unbelievers.
The Apostle Paul would not have neglected to teach this way of confessing if it was for believers.
Our sins have been taken care of by Jesus.

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Phill
3/31/2016 09:23:55 pm

I used to listen to a Christian radio show, "People to People" hosted by Bob George. I thought this site might be connected to him? He taught that the believer is already forgiven all his sins, past present and future. And that first John 1:9 is not calling believers to a routine of confessing their sins in order to stay in fellowship with Christ. As has been said in these posts, John is addressing unbelieving Gnostics,either directly or indirectly, to come to believe the saving truth, that they are lost sinners in need of a Savior who did come in the flesh and who died for their sins and rose all to secure eternal life: the gospel.
I agree that our eternal forgiveness all comes from the cross, and not based on our confessing every time we sin in our daily walk as believers. But, what I try to do if I am aware that I have sinned is just to say, Lord, this is not part of the new creation and the new life that you have given me. And then I try to turn from it. I'm not asking God for something I already have, complete forgiveness, but it's more an awareness of the completel cleansing of the Cross and my need to let that cleansing from sin continue to change me.

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Peggy Stephens
3/31/2016 09:46:59 pm

Phill there's a group of us that meet who all started out listening to Bob George. He was a pioneer! Now there are more and more preachers that understand grace.

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Phill
4/1/2016 09:07:39 am

Hi Peggy, I agree with Bob George about 1 John 1:9 and how people are burdened by legalistic teaching in much of today's church. The false teachings and false gospel of "Lordship Salvation" from John MacArthur, Billy Graham and others that Paul warns against in Galatians has been poisoning Christian teaching. And this stems from Calvinism. They have complicated and burdened people and kept them under working for their salvation. But eternal salvation is not at all from us or our doing or "repenting of our sins. We just need to know we are sinners in need of a Savior who died to pay for our sins, was buried, and rose from the dead. That means it's a done deal and we have eternal life, and it's not probationary on what we do. The only "repentance" that we are to do is to change our minds and believe the gospel of our salvation.(Eph 1:13-14)

Peggy, you say there is a group of us who meet. Is this an online group or a group in your community?

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Gordon
4/30/2016 08:29:58 pm

Greek Aroist Tense here. If we confess our sins he is faithful and just to have forgiven us and have cleansed us of all unrighteousness. A one time happening at cross.
You are right on.

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Elaine
5/2/2016 10:27:26 am

Confession is an acknowledgement before God of our shortcoming knowing that the blood of Jesus cleanses us. Without that, how can we repent of our actions when we offend the Holy Spirit, thereby growing up in Christ.

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Nana Adwoa Ngyl
6/18/2016 04:50:31 am

All said and done how about my 2 cents?
Our forgiveness is a done deal.Yet though we fall into sin atimes because of our nature, the presence of God's Holy Spirit (if we've yielded) to Him inhabiting us would be grieving through us whenever that happens.
In this fallen world it cannot be completely avoided. But we would hate that sinful outburst of ours as The Lord would. It rather should not make us guiltfully and repetitively confessing but rather humbly and gratefully confessing the power of Christ's finished work evident in our lives. I believe that's the everyday walk The loving father wants with us. Think about this SHOULD WE NOT HUMANELY do wrong (which is quite impossible) we are still sinners according to God's righteousness.
Common now! In response to Grace let us not willfully sin AGAIN ST GOD.
IT GRIEVES HIM WHEN WE CHOICE TO LIVE HOW HE WOULD NOT.THAT IS IN DARKNESS!
Let us ask for His power to make a choice that will please Him .
IT'S EXCITING! We're it NOT FOR GRACE!

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LP link
8/9/2016 03:51:59 am

I wish MORE would read and understand this and NOT take that verse out of context and build a doctrine around it. We have taught tradition for years from pulpits, not necessarily truth.

The verse is not saying that we don't sin in the flesh if we are Christians but as spiritually reborn New Creations in Christ we are no longer recognize by God as in the flesh (2 Cor. 5:16-17) and we are made the righteousness of God in Christ once and for all (2 Cor. 5:21) so we confessed our sin at the point the Lord saved us and we were made righteous. We DON'T have to keep reminding the Lord of what He has already forgiven and forgotten (Ps. 103:12, Isaiah 1:18; Heb. 8:12)

John WAS addressing Christians because he was telling them that if we claim to know the Lord and yet deny we have sin then the truth is not in us and if the truth is not in us we don't have His Spirit and are really still lost! All through scripture we are shown things that make us examine whether we are truly in the faith.

Repentance is changing one's mindset to the mind of Christ and walking in His Spirit. The Holy Spirit convicts the lost that they are sinners and the saved, New Creations spiritually reborn in Christ that they are the righteousnessof God in Christ. God is not bi-polar. He does not ever call those in Christ sinners... EVER! Therefore He does not need us to confess that which died in Christ. We confess our sin and are made the righteousness of God in Christ for eternity at salvation!

We need not fear killing those sacred cows of tradition we have held onto for years that are just that, TRADITION, not truth. The Lord is not sin concious toward those in Christ because He no longer sees nor remembers their sin as it died when Jesus became it on the cross (2 Cor. 5:21). We now walk in agreement as to our new identity and if we sin we repent and get up and walk again as who we already are in Him. Repentance is not reminding God of our sins that died in Christ.

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Dan
8/25/2016 12:01:24 am

my understanding is that John is writing this to believers in order to protect them against the false teachings of the false teachers of his days on this subject! he does not send letters to Gnostics. He does not write to unbelievers! john is referring to his brethren that had already accepted christ. he calls them my little children( 1jh2:1). also read John 1:12.
if he was writing to unbelievers, just confessing their sins will not get them saved, they had to accept and confess Christ as Lord and savior to be saved .the verses in question says nothing about that. the word "IF" in 1John 2:1-2, wouldnt applie to non believers but to born again believers . Meaning you are not supposed to be sinning but "IF" you do and repent sincerely , Be assured that God will forgive you.
If God cannot convict you of your wrong doings(sins), there is no way He can get you to access the cleansing power in the blood of Christ through confession and genuine repentance. This is what I believe 1Jhn1:9 is about.
I think many mix up condemnation for sin with conviction of sin. The devil condemns us of sin unto depression, while God convicts us of sin unto repentance. May the Lord give us understanding in Jesus name.Amen

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Damilola
2/6/2017 12:16:17 am

Thank God you said God convicts us to repentance not confession, and repentance meaning having a change of mind. At the time you commit a sin, you're comfortable committing but when you repent you're no longer comfortable with sin!

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Ed Banter
8/29/2016 03:23:43 am

Excellent post on:
"What is the meaning behind 1 John 1:9? Who is John addressing?
6/2/2012"
Some additional points:

FIRST

2 Corinthians 13:1
New International Version
This will be my third visit to you. "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses."
http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/13-1.htm
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Most who argue that we have to confess every time we sin, fail to produce two or three scriptures.

SECOND
"IF" is a conditional statement.
I am not tall, but I can say "If I was tall then I would play basketball."

Now for the Believer in Jesus, they have had a 'State of Change' , from Darkness to Light.


Colossians 1:13
New International Version
For he ***has*** rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
http://biblehub.com/colossians/1-13.htm
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Ephesians 2:1-2
New International Version (NIV)
Made Alive in Christ
1 As for you, you ***were*** dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you ***used*** to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:1-2
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This 'State of Change' becoming indwelt with The Holy Spirit, becoming Born Again form Above/Heaven is a permanent change.
'The First Adam' sinned and as a result we all were born Sinners.
What 'The Last Adam' Jesus did with His sacrifice, laying down His life for us as The Lamb of God, is far greater than what 'the Last Adam' did.
1 Corinthians 15:45
New International Version
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/15-45.htm
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THIRD
Is Paul illogical???
The logic that people are using to say we have to confess our sins based on 1 John 1:9 is not echoed in 1 John 2:1

When addressing "My dear children" which is 'The Body of Christ' Paul writes:

1 John 2:1
New International Version
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
http://biblehub.com/1_john/2-1.htm
===========================
*IF* Paul is logical then he should be saying in 1 John 2:1 .....
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have ....
....to confess our sins, to he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Instead Paul says " we have an ***advocate*** with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One."

John 14:16
New International Version
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another ***advocate*** to help you and be with you forever--
http://biblehub.com/john/14-16.htm
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Hebrews 9:15
New International Version
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised ***eternal inheritance***--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under ***the first covenant.***
http://biblehub.com/hebrews/9-15.htm
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Notice this does not read ***under the first and second covenant.***
Why?
There is NO Law in the Second Covenant!
The New Covenant is all promises from God about Blessing us.
The second covenant is between 'God The Father' and 'Jesus The Christ', it is finished and completed.
Jesus fulfilled all of 'The Law' of The Old Covenant for us, and died in our place.

The New Covenant cannot change!
We get in this New Covenant when we accept Jesus as Lord and The Holy Spirit comes to live inside us.

Romans 8:16-17
King James Version (KJV)
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208:16-17&version=KJV
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Our spirit is Born Again, BUT our flesh is not!
So we miss it when we walk in the flesh.

Galatians 5:16-17
New International Version (NIV)
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[a] you want.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+5:16-17&version=NIV
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So when we miss it, we can confess to The Father, NOT to be forgiven, but because we have already been forgiven!







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Lloyd
11/15/2016 11:57:52 am

If one goes to the original language and reads the Greek, the 'we' is in reference to the believers and NOT to Gnostics and unbelievers in their midst. Same as verse 8 and 10. Antinomian doctrine absolutely requires the re-interpretation of this particular Scripture as it really messes up their teaching.

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ed banter link
11/16/2016 09:00:40 am

It is hypothetical 'we' as I explained.
"Most who argue that we have to confess every time we sin, fail to produce two or three scriptures.

SECOND
"IF" is a conditional statement.
I am not tall, but I can say "If I was tall then I would play basketball."

Now for the Believer in Jesus, they have had a 'State of Change' , from Darkness to Light."

Paul is making a case against what the Agnostics believe and teach by making a 'we' to argue against their false doctrine.

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paul
1/7/2017 10:02:14 am

I have been a 1st jn 1:9er since 1977 and am just comming to grips with this revelation, and I am confused. So how or what do I say or pray when I begin my day in prayer?

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Rick
1/11/2017 08:55:26 am

Here Paul is a suggestion for you to consider, based on the fact if you are "in Chirst "you are ALREADY forgiven for whatever sins or failures you make today or in the future: "Lord I thank you that I am "perfect" in your sight because I am covered with the very "righteousness of Christ Himself." I recognize that when I sin or make a mistake today that it is not consistent with WHO I AM IN CHRIST - and I know you don't condemn me, and I am not going to condemn myself. I thank you that I AM FORGIVEN and I ask you to take that inclination out of my heart and strengthen me as I seek to daily "put off the old man" (my flesh) and "put on the new man" (my nature that is free from sin and a servant of righteousness)." I thank you Lord that I am free from the power of sin and you are everyday working in my heart and mind to conform me into your you own image and likeness. Amen. (See following Scriptures: (II Cor. 5:19-21; Hebrews 10:14; Romans 6:6-22; Romans 8:1 and 8:29; Colossians 3:8-14; Ephesians 1:7 and 4:22-24).

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ed banter
3/31/2017 01:26:08 pm

1 John 1:9 is addressing Gnostics.
1 John 2:1 is the start of addressing Christians:
Berean Study Bible
"***My little children***, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate before the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One."

We do not confess to receive forgiveness, it has already been given, past present and future.
We confess *Because* we are forgiven.

"Lord I missed it, thank You for going to The Cross for me and paying for all my sin!

Living from a position that is Heaven minded and Grace centered is living the life Jesus paid for us to live. It is one of overwhelming gratitude and close fellowship with The Lord.
So when I miss it, and I do, I run to God and not away, knowing He is for me and not against me!
Hebrews 13:5-6
New International Version (NIV)
5 ..... God has said,
“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”
6 So we say with confidence,
“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can mere mortals do to me?”

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Shelby Alcott
2/16/2017 10:11:22 am

As a Baptist (preservation of the saints) - I buy into your reasoning. Question: What mechanism or process do we (I am an engineer) when we as Christians fall short either by commission or omission follow to maintain (maintain - not restore) a right relationship with God? I feel like a prodigal when I know I have sinned (I don't doubt my salvation), but I feel out of sort like a joint that is out of socket until I pray (or claim)1 John 1:9 in order to rev up MY relationship with God. (It is like getting a telephone line back on the insulators after a storm has knocked the line down -the faulty connection is repaired) This mechanism appeals to me more than a "rededication" which seems to be more of a band aid than a real confession. Could it be that God permits this (though you are more doctrinally correct)? I think of Naaman (see 2 Kings 5:15-19) and fact he went in w/the king once a year for a worship observance to a pagan idol.

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Adah
8/3/2017 02:06:49 am

The best explanation I have read in a while!!!

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Papi
8/23/2017 03:31:45 pm

Masa, just want to know, how many of your sins did you confess before you became born again. So now the process of Salvation has now become confessing of sins instead of accepting Jesus as our Lord and personal saviour. If this was referring to unbelievers then Jesus missed it, Peter missed it when he said "repent and be baptise" Paul missedit when he said "if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe with your heart"
Now it's no more this way right, we have to confess all the sins before we will receive salvation right?

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juanmarcuz
10/28/2017 06:11:52 am

I confess my sin every time I realized it for the reason that it offended God, I confess not in a purpose to be save because I'm already forgiven and saved by Christ. If you sin, say sorry, we even say sorry to people how much more to our God. As a saved we should behave and live like Christ, we should at least try our best. God will look at the sincerity of our hearts. These the the sins that does not lead to death..

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AMIYA CHAKRAVARTY
3/23/2018 03:29:59 am

People are very much confuse to understand the Grace and gift of righteousness, hence, these types of diversity are raising in mind.
Sacrifice was so much perfect on the cross that gave us perfect & total forgiveness before 2000 years ago, which cancelled the sin of the world of past, present and future. God never sent his son for righteous people (those people who used to think that they are righteous by obeying the law, like Jews at the time of jesus on the earth) but God sent his son for the sinners (Romans 5) and Heb 10 says by that perfect sacrifice of Jesus christ on the cross , we are sanctified forever. Now we don't have sinnerhood, we have priesthood. So, Romans 10 :1-4 says, Jews failed to attend righteousness and christ become for them stumbling block and in other hand gentiles got righteousness freely, so still having zeal in the heart for GOD, Jews failed, because of LAW only LAW. Jews were trying to earn righteousness by Law instead of Faith in Gift of righteousness. Leaders are mis-using the gospel & use to preach that believers have to confess sin, if believers have to confess sin then what about that perfect sacrifice on the cross..! What about that precious blood of lamb of god shed on the cross...!. Romans 8:1 says, God never condemn us in Christ jesus., Romans 3:26 says , as our father is righteous, HE made us righteous. So, after resurrection and Grace came, God the Father see us righteous in christ Jesus. Those who use to confess sin, after believing that they have total & perfect forgiveness on the cross, those people crucifying Jesus again or ask father to crucify jesus again. They are against Jesus finished works. Even Bible says, in Romans 5 :13, that it was law who was there between us and father, not our sin, cause verse says that when there was now law no sin. In colossians 2:14 says. God blotted out the handwriting (LAW , which raise finger against us before GOD) on the cross and nailed it. Now, we are not under law, but under Grace. Now, Christ as a advocate and High priest and our Big brother before the throne of our Grace cannot be touched with our infirmities: but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin (Heb 4:15 & 16). So, our advocate know what are our weakness , He knows our infirmaties but still God see us righteous in Christ Jesus. So, when we confess sin or see ourselves as a sinner (after being born again), We see ourselves against Gods view. Hence, in Isaiah before completion of New covenant, God take the oath and spoke through prophets that "My ways are higher than your ways and My thoughts are higher than your thoughts". In 1 John 1:9, Gospel preached to those like Jews (holding Christ & Law) and to those people who were in their thoughts that they don't have any sin (Unbeliever).

Now I found many Preachers , while I preaching grace , said to me that "What about when someone after being saved by Grace fall into sin". I answered them that If Saved by Grace, Why don't take Grace.

Paul said, Let us Have Grace (Gal 12:28).
Paul shared his experience, 2 Corinthians 12:9 , "His Grace is sufficient" and Paul having Grace also give glory to God more gladly instead of crying tears , in his weaknesses.

One same word used in Isaiah 55:7 & 1 John 1:9 that is Unrighteousness.

Dear brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus, You can contact me in my email:- amiya_chakravarty@outlook.com.

Glory to the God the Father forever....

Amen

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Rich
3/27/2018 05:53:20 am

I disagree. Confession of sins for the Christian is not for forgiveness, but for fellowship with God. Our sin causes a loss of fellowship with God until we confess them and walk with Him again.

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ed banter
3/27/2018 01:23:04 pm

We confess because we have ***already*** been forgiven, not to be forgiven.
Jesus took ***all*** of Sin to The Cross and paid the debt owed by Sinners to God.
It is finished!

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Chris Whyatt
1/13/2020 12:54:06 pm

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I believe only the gospel of his pure grace with no strings attached this the only thing that will last because it’s the only true gospel, all others are false or mixed.
Thanks you Jesus

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Charles McGrath
2/20/2020 04:56:17 pm

DISAGREE! Read the section on Justification in the 1689 London Baptists Confession. Read the same section in the Westminster Confession of Faith.
Consider that OT believers the same as NT believers, saved by grace through faith pointing forward to or back from the cross of Christ. Confession was necessary for believers then and now.
Consider the Lords Prayer and Psalm 51.
Consider the difference between once-for-all eternal forgiveness in justification and the temporal earthly sanctification.
If you have no sense of guilt for grieving the Holy Spirit, you may not be truly saved. But when a loving God is grieved, isn't is natural to ask forgiveness, knowing it is forgiven. Jesus is our Advocate now and interceding now (Rom 8:34). When you examine yourself and bring your sins to God. He says, "Guilty! - Paid in Full!" Guilt is replaced by true joy, love and fellowship with God and without hypocrisy with other believers.
Consider the following illustration.
After having been told by his loving father to never play baseball in the street, his nine-year-old breaks the neighbor’s picture window with a wild pitch.
1. What is a proper response of a son that loves and honors his father? Run?
2. Is the son in danger of losing his sonship and getting kicked out of the family?
3. Even though the son has no means to pay, hasn’t the debt already been paid before the sin by the father’s sacrifice to buy insurance and save for an emergency fund and his commitment as a father?
It's the change in thinking you suggest that John MacArthur had to write "The Vanishing Conscience" and ask, "What ever happened to sin?" back in 1994. It's worse now and as a consequence there is little difference between "Christians" and the world. It's sad and consider you may be part of the problem of why so many are presuming on the grace of God instead of repenting (Rom 2:3-4).

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Joseph
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The verse says confess your sins
That means talk to God about them “
I Regularly to ask God give strength to overcome sin in my life because i have open relationship with God
It’s says confess not ask forgiveness daily for rest your life trying any sin you can” just so you can be forgiven without going hell” this is ridiculous religion” not grace! By Jesus finished work on the cross”

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